Só pra quem conhece o MAdriva? [RESOLVIDO]

eujobi
(usa Fedora)

Enviado em 10/12/2011 - 20:39h

Eu comprei um notebook positivo um ano. Ele veio com o Mandriva. NO fim instalei win7 e ultimamente estou usando
fedora 16. Estou pensando em usar o mandriva novamente pensando em usar um linux mais adecuado com meu note.
Na verdade o fedora 16 roda muito bem tando gnome3, kde, lxde e xfce. Mas estou pensando que talvés o mandriva faça um melhor gerenciamento de meu hd e outros hardware.
Notei que o download do mandriva 2011 é mais que um giga. Será que nesses download já vem instalados o kde, o genome, o lxde e xfce, já que não encontrei opções de dowload separados?

O que vcs podem me dizer sobre o Mandriva?

mspaint
(usa elementary OS)

Enviado em 10/12/2011 - 21:06h

Prezado membro,
Acredito que o Fedora é ótimo como SO, o que é realmente necessário já que chegou a utiliza-lo, é quanto ao reconhecimento do hardware e a sua "adaptação" á interface gráfica(Gnome, KDE, LXDE, XFCE...). E em relação ao Mandriva, sugiro não instalar a ultima versão 2011, ainda falta amadurecer um pouco mais e não está reconhecendo hardware corretamente, enquanto a 2010(Free -DVD e One- CD) reconheciam todo o hardware, exceto pelo brilho da tela que nunca funcionava. Como a versão instalada de fabrica no seu notebook foi o Mandriva, acredito que já tenha uma certa noçao do seu funcionamento.

pinduvoz
(usa Debian)

Enviado em 10/12/2011 - 21:57h

O Fedora 16 com Gnome 3 é mais pesado do que o Mandriva com KDE 4. Vc vai sentir uma melhora de desempenho trocando um pelo outro, mas o gerenciamento do seu hardware vai ser o mesmo.

O Mandriva atual não tem mais opção de Ambiente Desktop. Ele vem apenas com o KDE 4, nas versões ONE (livre) e POWERPACK (é paga, mas é barata). Não sei se nos repositórios do Mandriva vc vai encontrar o Gnome, mas sei que se vc o encontrar, instala-lo onde já está o KDE 4 pode não ser uma boa ideia.

Se vc quiser opções, pode usar o Mageia, que é um "fork" do Mandriva. Esse sim vem com Gnome ou KDE 4, que é o "forte" dele.

Informações sobre o Mageia:

http://www.mageia.org/pt/

coelhoposa
(usa Debian)

Enviado em 10/12/2011 - 22:10h

Por que não o Mageia KDE???

Ele realmente VOA baixo em meu PC, vou instalá-lo amanhã...

A versão KDE é bastante rápida, leve e extremamente fácil.

coelhoposa
(usa Debian)

Enviado em 10/12/2011 - 22:17h

Não uso Mandriva, mas conheço muito bem o Mageia.

Não, só vem o KDE, até a versão 2010.2 vinha em 3.7 GB de HD, com todos os Desktops. A Mandriva/ROSA Labs, fizeram um ótimo trabalho no Mandriva. A propósito, qual é a configuração de seu notebook?

danniel-lara
(usa Fedora)

Enviado em 10/12/2011 - 23:01h

eu usei muito o mandriva no passado depois fui para o ubuntu e agora estou com Debian
tenho um notebook com o debia , e ele roda muito bem 100%
bom a bateria dura mais , isso que não estou usando compiz
somente o basico mas ele se sai muito bem , reconheceu todo o hardware

mas eu sugiro que você teste o mageia em ves do mandriva

clodoaldops
(usa Linux Mint)

Enviado em 11/12/2011 - 00:48h

-a versão oficial do mandriva-2011 só tem em kde
-existe outras na comunidade
-mas oficial só kde com o rosa-desktop
http://www.hardware.com.br/noticias/2011-08/mandriva2011-1.html

-se vc não deseja uma distro .deb como ubuntu e mint
-sugiro o fedora-16 ou mageia-1

eujobi
(usa Fedora)

Enviado em 11/12/2011 - 00:59h

milesmaverick como vc pediu:

Meu note é o positivo premium 7540 de 64 bit hd 500 tem 4 giga de memória processador i5.

Instalei no fedora o gnome3, kde, xfce e lxde. Com o fedora tudo funciona, webcam, wirelles e etc. Criei esse tópico porque li alguns artigos sobre o linux detonar o hd. Então fiz um teste com hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep Advanced e tive o resultado de 128 agora mudei para 254.
Fiquei preocupado com a questão do hd somente. Achei que pelo fato do Mandriva tervindo instalado de fábrica e ser brasileiro poderia gerenciar melhor os dispositivos.


Abaixo segue o camndo lswh!


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pinduvoz
(usa Debian)

Enviado em 11/12/2011 - 03:05h

Amigo, seu notebook roda qualquer distro com excelente desempenho.

Meu corei3, com apenas 2 GB de RAM, já rodou de tudo e nunca negou fogo, quem dirá um corei5 com o dobro de RAM. Escolha qualquer distro com KDE 4 e seja feliz.

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Aliás, se é para usar KDE 4, segue a minha distro favorita com esse D.E.:

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=pclinuxos

Trata-se de uma distro rpm (como o Mandriva e o Fedora) que usa o gerenciamento de pacotes do Debian, ou seja, a dupla APT/Synaptic.

Uma vez atualizada, o PCLinuxOS é uma distro "cutting edge", tal é qual o Fedora.